Dr. Gerald Epstein is the pioneer in the use of mental imagery for treating physical and emotional problems. He is one of the few doctors that does not use Eastern methods for healing and utilizes only ancient Western tradition of health care and spirituality. Gerald teaches Jason’s audience today how you can use mental imagery to heal yourself and boost your well being.

Key Takeaways:

[1:54] Dr. Gerald recommends his book Healing Visualization as a good starter for everybody who wants to create health through visualization.

[6:50] If you look up the root word, ‘KAILO’, it automatically leads to health, whole, heal, and holy.

[9:25] Gerald talks about the dark currents of will.

[13:50] How can we implement visualization into our lives?

[18:30] If you’re feeling happy, depressed, or anxious, try and imagine what those feelings look like visually.

[19:20] What’s the image of calm? Gerald talks about how you can reverse anger into calm.

[24:55] Homeopathy has two fundamental principles associated with it.

[26:55] What’s better for your longevity and well being, being married or unmarried?

Mentioned In This Episode:

http://drjerryepstein.org/

Tweetables:

What’s the image of calm? Do you have an image of calm?

You changed your negative mental state, you reversed it, and it took a second or two, that’s all you’re asked to do.

In doing the imagery work, you’re giving yourself hope for the future.

Transcript

Jason Hartman:

It’s my pleasure to welcome Dr. Gerald Epstein to the show. He is founder and director of the American Institute for Mental Imagery and author of the Phoenix Process: One Minute A Day to Health, Longevity, and Well-Being. Gerald, welcome, how are you?

Dr. Gerald Epstein:

Oh, I’m feeling peppy and up to stuff.

Jason:

Good to hear, good to hear. Give our listeners a sense of geography, where are you located?

Gerald:

I’m located in New York City.

Jason:

Okay. You know, Mental Imagery. This is very interesting, because I don’t know if we’ve dedicated a show to really the psychosomatic side of this completely. You deal with visualization, imagery. This is very powerful in achieving life’s goal, but how do it apply to longevity and well being?

Gerald:

Well, it provides for you your own inter-resource. I may say that I’m one of the leading exponents, amongst the leading exponents in the world of this work and I have many books and CD sets and article about this work and research that I’ve conducted on the national institutes of health, so it’s all available and I would recommend my book Healing Visualizations as a very good starter for everybody. Creating Health Through Imagery.

So, how it works, of course, is the system is such that there’s no separation between the physical and the mental. There’s no separation between the physical, the emotional, the mental, and the social. It’s all one system. So, the ancient system of health care was this model. So, it saw it as an integrative way of existence, an integrative way that we exist in the world.

So, the mental in this respect gives instruction and influence on bodily processes, on physiology and so on, so that you can take charge of your inner stative being and by doing that, which is gaining access to this inner resource of the image, which is the true and natural language of the mind. It will in turn send messages, that sends message – it has messages relayed to the very physiological and biological centers of the body and the effects take place and are reflective there.

So, it’s a system of unity of wholeness and oneness, which is not the medical model that exists now. The medical model is a separate model. It’s a model of division and separateness where there is no relationship really essentially between the physical and the emotional, the physical and the mental. You called this psychosomatic. That was the ancient psychiatric term for trying to link the two together. There’s no need to link the two together, the two are automatically, inherently, linked. We are one unit and every single moment we behave in a physical, emotional, mental, social, and marrow manner. We are unified being in every single instance. That’s the basis of this model.

Jason:

So, when you say medicine divides this, are you referring mostly to Western medicine?

Gerald:

Yeah, my work is purely Western and it focus on the ancient Western tradition of health care and spirituality as it’s come down to us and transmitted to us in contemporary times. So, this is a translation into everyday life for people living in this era and this environment and culture and so on. Nothing Eastern.

Jason:

Okay, so let’s get into some specifics here and some real how tos. How can we use this to improve our longevity and our well being?

Gerald:

Because, as I mentioned, you have this inner resource available to you, so you can use that to shift processes in your physical and emotional well being. For example, if I ask everybody to imagine in front of themselves, to imagine themselves in a silhouette form, in the shape of a question mark. Why do I say question mark? Because question mark has to do with the doubts we hold about ourselves and our ability to live long or to function in a healthy way in life and there are probably 100 million people, at least, suffering overtly from back trouble and so, you see yourself in the shape of a question mark.

Your silhouette as your spinal cord, your spinal column, and as you experience that, in a moment, you just imagine that and see how your financial expression is and then in a moment, just breathe out slowly one time and turn, see that silhouette turning towards you and becoming an explanation mark and how do you feel? What happens to you? What is your experience?

Well, I don’t know if you did it, Jason, but people characteristically when they do this, they experience for example the back pain disappearing, they experience themselves feeling lighter, their posture changes, their standing up straighter and so on. How did this happen? Because there was a message given from the interior world, the mental world, to the physical world about a shift or change to take place and so that’s how it works and if you look at the world health, the world health in the English language comes from a root, an immunological root, KAILO. I raised this because all words in the language that come from a similar root are related or connected to each other automatically.

So, if you look up the root KAILO, what you get is health, whole, heal, and holy. You get those four words. So, in order to have a health care system that brings you to healing and wholeness and brings you into health which then brings you automatically into a longer live span in your biological and physiological being, you need to understand that you’re a unified being and that you bring into place also those elements in your life, which have to do with our social behaviors toward each other, which are imbedded and embodied in the ancient laws, spiritual laws of the West, which is living in harmony and truth with each other.

Essentially, don’t murder, don’t steal, don’t commit adultery, don’t lie, don’t be a false witness, and covet. That is, don’t claim and possess yourself with what doesn’t belong to you.  The greed factor, wanting more, better, and different. Constantly pulling at you to grasp and get as much as you can and so on and jealousy and envy, all part of coveting – wanting to claim and possess what doesn’t belong to you.

Jason:

So, first of all, what does the coveting do to us? What does that do to our being?

Gerald:

It destroy our – the fabric of our being. It destroy the fabric of our personal relationships, because when you covet, what you’re doing is you want to use what’s coming into play is what we call the five dark currents of your will. Your will use in the service of the take to keep, hold on to the expense of others, advance at the expense of others, and the fundamentally significantly central one, the desire to be great, vanity.

To have people bow down before you, celebrate you, lord you, serve you, be servants to you, have power over them, surrender their power to you and so on, which, most people are doing in human relationships. You want to claim and possess what doesn’t belong to you on a step over boundary of another person’s experience. You’re not seeking to persuade the freedom of the other and that creates disharmony, discord, and destruction in human relationships. All of them.

So, if you covet it, if you want to claim and possess what doesn’t belong to you and you step over boundaries and use the dark currents of will, you’re definitely going to lie, you’re going to tell untruths, you’re going to fabricate you’re going to make up stories that help you in the quest to take, to keep, and to get and what we call the greed factor, to want more better and different at the expense, usually, of others, and when it comes to bare on yourself. Well, if you gotta lie, you’re also going to steal, because you’ll do whatever it takes to preserve that inquisitive need and it’s necessary to defraud or cheat or whatever, so be it, and that of course leads to murder.

Jason:

This is just a downward spiral, yeah.

Gerald:

It’s a downward spiral of life and that creates a shorten life and so, when we come to longevity and the fact is we are living longer and we finding the possibilities on a biological basis and physiological basis and health care basis to extend life, you’ll notice that there’s been an increase in dementia, there’s coming more into prominence in the public cautiousness and into the news and so on about dementia and people suffering from that. Well known people now being brought into the public eye and suffer from it and etc.

Well, if you’re going to live long and you don’t take into account this inner realm of your existence, this inner level of being that you need to then focus on, then you’re going to lose your relationship to your existence. You’re not going to be living, you gotta be existing and you got to be living long on a physical level, but you’re not going to be living in a truly full whole healthy whole unified integrated way of life. You lose it.

So, if you don’t have this whole perspective at play, this whole perspective. Whole, heal, health, and holy in perspective, then you’re long life amounts to becoming custodial board for somebody or some institution and you’re not really living and really finding out and asking yourself what is your purpose for living, what’s your purpose for really being here on earth and so on. Well, one of the purposes is to change the five dark currents of will, which we are all indoctrinated.

Jason:

Say that again, the five dot, is that what you’re..?

Gerald:

Dark currents of will. Currents that want to take, keep, hold on to the expensive of others, advance at the expense of others and the desire to be vain, to have a false image that you project of yourself and so to have people serve you and become servants to you, so that has to change. One of these purposes is to change these dark currents of will to what I call the light currents of will. Currents that are serviced by the light, to share, to give, to mentor, to renounce, that is, to give up the coveting, to renounce and to become humble; to become a servant of others, a servant for others, to serve.

So, the way of health and longevity is to begin to apply these light currents as you’re getting older to use them in a way that you begin to process your life and how you live with others and become those old wise sages that are no longer considered to be significant in our current technological life who have lots of things to offer, because they are not seen as valuable, utilitarian beings and so on – to have something to really offer in terms of wisdom and understanding about life and if you don’t gain it, you’re not going to be able to give it.

Jason:

Got it and let’s dive in and let’s look at – I just want to make sure the listeners get more specific how tos on this imagery. You talked about this back pain before, I get the context from where you’re coming, it’s great, I love, but give us some more examples of how to implement these things. What to do? I mean, are these meditations? Are they creative visualization exercise? Do you them with a tape, like a guided imagery, or..

Gerald:

No. Neither creative visualization or Eastern meditation practice. There’s a Western meditation practice, which is very powerful in our way, but it’s not for this discussion that we’re having today, but what you do is you – it’s a very simple method, you close your eyes so you block out the distractions of the external world and you turn your senses inward and then you begin to breathe in a special way which allows you to rid yourself of the chronic stress hormone and the west product of carbon dioxide, so you can oxygenate much better.

So, you breathe out of your mouth, long, slow, exhalations and when you do, you’re really breathing out the chronic stress hormone, you’re breathing out the carbon dioxide, and then when you’re breathing in, you breathe in naturally; not deep, but you take it in through your nose and you breathe in the pure oxygen. So, you’re breathing in pure oxygen and naturally and normally and breathing out long, slow exhalations.

So, now you got that down, after a few of those, you’re now quiet, relaxed, calm, you’ll find some difficult emotional states are quieting down, you’re focusing, you’re centered, just by this few respiratory cycles, long slow, out, natural or normal in, out through the mouth, in through the nose, and then you’ve turned your senses inward, you’re sitting up straight, not cross legged and not clasping your hands.

So, you’re sitting up straight with your arms in the arms of the chair and your fingers and your legs flat on the ground and nothing is crossed and if you don’t have arms, you can just put your hands flat, palms down, on your thighs. Don’t do it laying down, you want to sit up in a vertical direction, because the vertical posture is the posture of life, it’s the posture of breathing correct. So, laying down is the posture of sleep, so we’re not in a sleep state, we’re in a hyper awake state, actually.

So, after a few respiratory cycles, you’re ready now to do an image, which you’re not creating, you’re not conducing it, you’re discovering it, because you’re turning your senses in ward to an inner world of knowledge and knowing called the imagination or the imaginal and all that you need to know about yourself is in repository within you.

So, in doing that, having that as a fundamentals, then my method, which is in the Phoenix process, I have four techniques there, which are original and one of – but they’re – the part that’s based on imagery is simple. You want to, you want to feel happy, so I ask you to see yourself happy, so you see the image of happy. If you don’t see it easily, hear it. If you can’t use those senses taste something that brings happy, smell something that brings happy, touch something that brings happy. Use the senses, because we’re using the senses directed inwardly, so you imagine yourself touching or tasting or smelling or hearing or seeing, okay.

Now, when you do that, you are then getting the feeling that’s bringing you. When the senses take root there, which are your bodily sensations, when they take root, you’ll get a feeling, you’ll get the feeling, okay, so now, when you want happy, you imagine yourself happy, so you say to yourself, ‘happy’. See it, feel it, get the bodily sensation that comes with it and get that feeling, so that you are walking around now with that feeling and as you begin to do that in a regular way, not in a compulsive addictive way, but in a regular way that sits well with your rhythm, you’ll become happy. So, you’re changing your attitude in the world, you see.

Now, if I say to you, gee, Doc, I’m depressed. I ask you then, what does the depression loo like? Gee Doc, I’m anxious, what is the anxiety look like? Well, gee, I have pain in my arm. Good, what does the pain look like? You noticed what I asked you?

Jason:

Yeah, what does it look like. You keep asking what it looks like, yeah.

Gerald:

Yes, because, the imagery is the natural and true language of the inner world. We’re speaking together, Jason, in the esoteric, the language of the outer world, which is called discursive. We’re speaking to each other and communicating verbally. This verbal outer language has its chirality inward. So, every word that you use that’s a noun or adjective particularly has a chirality an image. So, if I ask you, what’s the image of calm? Now almost every single person I’ve ever asked this to, who has had difficulty trying to get their head around this. What’s the image of calm? Do you have an image of calm?

Jason:

Off the top of my head, I don’t know, looking over the ocean, a serene ocean.

Gerald:

See, there’s a relationship between calm and serene ocean. Now, I ask you, Jason, what’s the image of peacefulness?

Jason:

The same, the ocean is good, the sky is good, pastoral fields are good.

Gerald:

Yeah, you see a pastoral field. So, now you see the field, don’t you, for that moment, so you are seeing the relationship between the outer and the inner, there’s an intimate relationship because we are a unitary being who operates in the outside world and the inside world at the same time. So, then, I ask you, what’s the image of anger?

Jason:

I want to say some villain in a movie or something, some angry Rambo.

Gerald:

Okay, so, but you see the angry Rambo? Okay, now I say to you, Jason, reverse that image, turn it around, change it, what do you see?

Jason:

Having trouble coming up with that one. I don’t know, the reverse of Rambo.

Gerald:

Who would be the reverse of Rambo?

Jason:

Gosh.

Gerald:

If you want to movie-fy it, who would you take as the opposite as someone that would seem to be the reverse of that. Not angry.

Jason:

Gandhi is the reverse of Rambo.

Gerald:

Okay, so now you see Gandhi, right, you see Gandhi, and what’s the feeling does that bring when you see Gandhi?

Jason:

I’m not saying Gandhi is the perfect choice.

Gerald:

There is no perfect choice. It’s different for everybody. Okay, so if you see Ghandi, you’re seeing quietness, okay, let’s say quietness.

Jason:

The passive resistance concept, yeah.

Gerald:

So, you’re seeing a passive – you’re seeing a quiet, accepting person, yes?

Jason:

Yep.

Gerald:

Okay. So now, you’ve turned the anger around and now you feel quiet and you see it in the form of this image, you see it and you feel it now and you say yourself, quiet, and whatever bodily sensation now may accompany that in bodily, that physical sensation that you may get, well, some people may say, I feel a pleasant tingling or I feel, I sense a lightness, I sense my chest expanding, things like that, right. So, we’ve done that in a few seconds, we’ve turned the feeling around so you are no longer beset by that, you’ve now changed into another attitude and another direction and shift of your inner state of being.

Well, we know and I’ve done this in my own research, but it’s clearly known that when you change your physical attitudes, your physiology changes, and when you change your emotional life, your physiology changes. So, you can find your immune system goes up when you laugh, your immune system goes down when you’re depressed, now you want to talk about longevity. Is there a relationship between the depressed state of mind, the down state of mind, the recurrent sadness, the chronic sadness, is there are relationship between that and the physiology in my being? Yes, there is, because they’ll find and research has clearly shown that, the immune system is depressed, so when you’re emotionally or mentally mood state depressed, you’re physiologically depressed.

Now, how does that touch on or bare on longevity? Well, obviously it’s going to have a decisive factor in shortening your life, you see, but if you are happy and you are more of a Gandhi state than a Rambo state, when you’re angry, your blood pressure begins to raise, that’s been clearly noted. That there’s a relationship between feelings of angry and high blood pressure. Type A personalities and so on. So, when I’m quiet, my pressure begins to come down, will that effect my longevity, you bet it does, of course it does, because we are a unitary system.

There’s an imitate relationship, nothing that has to be constructed in the medical model to try and bring them together. They already are together and we clearly have shown my research in asthma has shown that. I’ve had published research on the National Institutes of Health at (#24:06?) hospital in New York to show that imagery – nearly 50% of the patients in the study to get off their – to stop their asthma medication..

Jason:

How long does this take and how often do we do this process? You know, is it something we do for five minutes a day, what’s sort of the prescription, if you will.

Gerald:

How long did it take you? I’m giving you the r-rex now and the dosage. How long did this take for you to change Rambo into Gandhi?

Jason:

Well, that only took a second.

Gerald:

That’s right, it only took a second, because the most ancient healing method that we know one of the two, the most ancient healing methods that’s existed in our five thousand historical unfolded tradition of health care is homeopathy and homeopathy has two fundamental principles associated with it. One is in which this imagery work works, which is a micro input, you did it just for a second or two, a micro input for a macro output. What is the macro output? Macro means large, micro means small.

So, you homeopathy works on giving a molecule of a substance to get a large response, you only need a spark in a fireworks factory to set off the fireworks, you don’t need a settling torch. So, you just did it for a moment. You changed it, you reversed it, and it took a second or two, that’s all you’re asked to do to devote to your life and longevity.

Jason:

Pretty worth while equation. Jerry, we’ve got to wrap up, but give out your website and tell people where they can find out more. You’ve got so many books by the way on Amazon.

Gerald:

Yes, I have many, many books on Amazon and the CD sets and all of that and my website contains a vast amount of information for everyone.

Jason:

It really does. I like it.

Gerald:

It really does. So, it’s DrJerryEpstein.org and there you’ll find everything you need and how to contact me and so on and so forth. All the information is there.

Jason:

Jerry, give us a closing thought.

Gerald:

So, have hope for yourself, hope means the inner light. So, you always, in doing the imagery work, you’re giving yourself hope for the future and hope for the future is for the extension of self, in many ways. Biologically, physiologically, emotionally, mentality, socially, and spirituality. So, we’re developing a spiritual body of light in doing this work.

Jason:

I got to ask you one more question before you go. You have, I’m looking on your website and you have a section about marriage and relationships to marry or not, is there a bit of advice there? I’m curious, as to what’s better for your well being and longevity.

Gerald:

There’s no standard about it. I met people in the spiritual world who are unmarried and – both East and West, particularly you find it in the East in terms of the yogis and the zen monks and so on and they live very long lives. In the socially shared world that we live in, you can – having a community is very, very helpful or having a meaningful relationship. There’s two of the elements about having a extended life span, so that you want to have some relationship to a source, to a power, you want to have not particularly a concern or devoting your life to getting money. This has been found in research, it’s done around the world with people who live characteristically over a 100 years of age and so, some people benefit by being single and some benefit by being married.

Jason:

No standard, it’s an individual case by case basis, yeah.

Gerald:

There are no standards created in a man made world as we call it. No standards created by human beings that have any real value.

Jason:

Dr. Gerald Epstein, thank you so much for joining us. Everybody listening check out his website and the books on Amazon. Just a wealth of information here. Thank you again.

Gerald:

Thanks Jason for having me. It’s been a pleasure.

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