Teeka Tiwari is Editor of “Mega Trends” at the Palm Beach Letter. He recently made a prediction for an event that will likely be 1.4 times bigger than the events of 07-08. He joins the show to explain in what way it will be bigger than the crash of 08? Tiwari discusses what his “red flag” list is and shares some of names from it.
Teeka Tiwari epitomizes the American Dream. He came to the United States from England at sixteen with just $150 in his pocket and the clothes on his back. By eighteen, Teeka had become the youngest employee at Lehman Brothers. Two years later, he shattered convention by becoming the youngest Vice President in the history of Shearson Lehman. By the time he was 23 Teeka had made and lost a million dollars. At 27, he was a millionaire several times over.
In June 2005, Teeka co-founded Tycoon Publishing and created the trading service, Point & Profit. The service made his wealth-building acumen available to the average individual investor for the first time. Since then, Teeka has been developing and perfecting the ETF Master Trader System, an interactive education program that teaches a complete Sector Trading investment methodology and gives ordinary investors the confidence to master the markets using Exchange Traded Funds.
In June 2008, Teeka launched Sector Hunter, the World’s first fully-automated ETF trading technology, providing individual investors with an institutional quality tool that identifies big money moves in 46 narrow sector groups and selects ETFs and stocks best positioned to profit from the move.
Teeka is a regular contributor to FOX Business Network and has appeared on FOX News Channel, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and international television networks. He manages a hedge-fund which is closed to new investors. Teeka Tiwari has prepared a SPECIAL video for all listeners. He explains why “safe” investors may lose everything within the next six months.
Visit www.megatrendsinvesting2.com to find out more.
ANNOUNCER: Welcome to Creating Wealth with Jason Hartman! During this program Jason is going to tell you some really exciting things that you probably haven’t thought of before, and a new slant on investing: fresh new approaches to America’s best investment that will enable you to create more wealth and happiness than you ever thought possible. Jason is a genuine, self-made multi-millionaire who not only talks the talk, but walks the walk. He’s been a successful investor for 20 years and currently owns properties in 11 states and 17 cities. This program will help you follow in Jason’s footsteps on the road to financial freedom. You really can do it! And now, here’s your host, Jason Hartman, with the complete solution for real estate investors.
JASON HARTMAN: Welcome to the Creating Wealth Show. This is your host, Jason Hartman, and thank you so much for joining me today. We’ll be back with today’s guest or segment, in just a moment.
ANNOUNCER: Now you can get Jason’s Creating Wealth In Today’s Economy Home Study Course: all the knowledge and education revealed in a 9-hour day of the Creating Wealth Boot Camp, created in a home study course for you to dive into at your convenience. For more details, go to www.jasonhartman.com
JASON HARTMAN: It’s my pleasure to welcome Teeka Tiwari to the show! He is editor of Mega Trends, at the Palm Beach Letter, and he’s got a very interesting background on Wall Street. One of the youngest VPs ever on Wall Street; you’re gonna hear about that, and we’re gonna talk about some stocks, and the economy in general. Teeka, welcome. How are you?
TEEKA TIWARI: I’m great, Jason. Thanks for having me on the show.
JASON HARTMAN: Well good, good. It’s good to have you on the show. So, pretty amazing Wall Street background you have! Instantly Jordan Belfort came to mind, when you said that, before we started recording, but without the criminal element, hopefully.
TEEKA TIWARI: Indeed.
JASON HARTMAN: But he was a quick and early rising star. What—tell us your story.
TEEKA TIWARI: Absolutely. I started working for Lehman Brothers when I was 18 years old, pretty much just getting the coffee, and at 20 I became the youngest vice president in the history of Shearson Lehman Brothers. Always wanted to work on Wall Street; was fascinated by stocks from a very young age.
JASON HARTMAN: Wow, that’s amazing. So, just out of curiosity, before the financial crisis and so forth, what year was that you’re talking about, when you were 20 years old?
TEEKA TIWARI: Yeah, so, I started working at Lehman Brothers when I was 18, and I worked on Wall Street for many years, and then in 2003, I left Wall Street, and I started up my own private equity firm, got involved in real estate deals actually, buying a hotel and splitting off the land from the hotel. It was very successful. And then started getting into the newsletter writing business in 2005, and also started teaching people how to actually invest in the market using ETFs. Basically, taking what I learned on Wall Street and making it easy to understand for the everyday investor.
JASON HARTMAN: Yeah. Fantastic. So, tell us about your hotel deals, real quickly, before we dive into some investing tips for today.
TEEKA TIWARI: Sure. In ’03 interest rates were still relatively high. So, I found a hotel with a huge slug of land next to it, in Antigua, and we managed to negotiate a great deal. We bought the hotel and the land, and I had a short term note, and I was able to cover the note and make a profit by splitting off the land from the hotel. So we sold the land to a developer, then we fixed up the hotel, and we got a year of operating earnings behind us, and then we flipped the hotel, we ended up making a couple million bucks. It was a great deal.
JASON HARTMAN: Good. Well, fantastic. Well, tell us what you’re up to nowadays, and what your thoughts are on the economy, stock market, bond market, I guess we’re gonna particularly discuss?
TEEKA TIWARI: Yeah, absolutely. About six—three or four months ago, I started a brand new investment newsletter called Mega Trends Investing. And what I wanted to do was really prepare individuals for what I believe is a coming crisis. If you look back at the last several years, we’ve had this huge crisis in tech stocks, we had a huge crisis in bank stocks, we’ve got a third wave crisis coming, and that is in the bond market, Jason. In my opinion, the bond—buying bonds here is akin to buying Internet stocks in 1999. There is no way to make money from buying bonds if you believe that inflation—any sort of inflation—is going to be around, you cannot make money buying bonds. In fact, you will lose money buying bonds right here.
JASON HARTMAN: Yeah. And I agree with you, because inflation really destroys lenders, and that’s one of the big philosophies that I preach to my real estate investor clients, and that is about the concept of what I call inflation-induced debt destruction. So, inflation transfers wealth from lenders to borrowers, because the lenders get paid back in cheaper dollars, as inflation keeps debasing their return. And so, as a bondholder, you’re essentially a lender. And that is not a good position to be in in an inflationary environment. But you know, it kind of begs the question, just drill down on that if you would, and tell us, first of all, what are you considering to be the typical return for bonds? And then, what are you considering to be the real inflation rate?
TEEKA TIWARI: I think—I’m not gonna take a stab at the real inflation rate, because everybody’s been wrong on that for years.
JASON HARTMAN: I’ll do it for you, but okay.
TEEKA TIWARI: What I can tell you is I think that bonds are gonna offer negative returns for the next 25 years.
JASON HARTMAN: Oh my gosh! That’s an amazing prediction, by the way. Whoa.
TEEKA TIWARI: And I think it’s gonna be in stages. I think the first period will be kind of that drip, drip, drip, one and a half, two percent losses. If you look at the 20-year period from 46 to 66, bonds generally lag by around 2 to 2.3%. If you looked in the final stage of that bond market falling apart, which went from 66 to 82, you—
JASON HARTMAN: So you’re talking about 1966 to 1982, I just want to be clear on that.
TEEKA TIWARI: Yes, yes. That’s right. You saw the average bond portfolio decline in purchasing power by somewhere around 83% during that period. So I think it’ll start off slow, Jason, and then it will pick up speed. So this is why it’s so important. Because we’re gonna have this huge period, this 25 year period, where bonds are going to underperform, and they’re going to underperform dramatically. So if you’re building your entire investment portfolio based on fixed income, you are going to destroy your future. If you built bonds in 46, or if you retired in 66, you said oh, I’ve got a $2 million bond portfolio, I’m great—that buying power was completely annihilated throughout what should have been your golden years, your time to relax. Instead it was a time where you saw your wealth get vaporized. That’s the type of trend that we are moving into now, Jason, in my opinion.
JASON HARTMAN: Well, I agree. But gosh, a quarter of a century? I mean, you’re making a prediction for the next quarter of a century. That’s pretty amazing.
TEEKA TIWARI: You’re absolutely right. But life comes down to just a few decisions. What I do for my subscribers, is I identify long term mega trends that we can play for years and years and years, and history backs me up here, Jason. When the bond market turns, it doesn’t turn for a minute or two like an individual stock, or even for a year or two. It turns for decades. If you look at the last major bond bear market, it went from the 40s, until 1982. The last bond bull market went from 82 to I believe it died last year, 30+ years. So, this is a market that moves in a circular way for an extended period of time. And if you get this one idea right, you can just make tons of money just by being on the right side of this trade. It’s one little decision that can have a huge impact on your life.
JASON HARTMAN: Yeah. Okay. Alright. So what do people do? I mean, avoid bonds, I would agree with you there. But the stock market’s pretty overvalued, in most people’s opinion.
TEEKA TIWARI: I think that the indexes are overvalued, but there are still pockets of value within the individual equity market. And I think what you’ve gotta look at, is you’ve gotta look for companies that are growing their dividends and growing their earnings, rather than staying with a defensive place, which you’re gonna get priced like a bond, Jason, because they don’t grow. I think what you’ve gotta do, is you’ve gotta look for value stocks that are on the cusp of becoming growth stocks. And that’s exactly what I do at Mega Trends. And just by the way, if anybody has an interest in taking a look at what I do, the URL is MegaTrendsInvesting2.com. That’s the number 2, dot com.
JASON HARTMAN: So MegaTrendsInvesting2, not spelled out, just number 2. No number sign though. MegaTrendsInvesting2.com.
TEEKA TIWARI: That’s correct. So what I do, Jason, is I’m looking for companies that are valued like a value stock, but there’s a catalyst that’s gonna turn them into a growth stock. To me, that’s where the rubber meets the road. And if you look at it in a rising interest rate environment, growth outperforms value. And so, I’ve identified some of these names that I think are just incredible values right now that are on the verge of really explosive earnings as interest rates go up. To me, it’s an incredibly exciting time to be an investor.
JASON HARTMAN: Okay. Well, interesting. So, what are those great opportunities? I mean, everybody’s a stock picker, you know? Most of the time those tips don’t work out.
TEEKA TIWARI: Well, let’s talk about one idea that I think is incredibly cheap. So, there’s a company, and I just published a buy recommendation on this—a company called MetLife. Largest insurance company in the United States. Trading below book value. Not only below book value, Jason, but it’s trading at around the same book value level that it had for much of 2009. Right? So, that’s just a fundamental mispricing of this stock. Typically speaking, an insurance company will trade at one and a half to two times book value. And the reason why it’s so cheap, is that interest rates are incredibly low. They just haven’t been able to generate huge returns on the policy payments that they get. But if you are a believer, as I am, that insurance rates have bottomed, and are moving higher, in my opinion, there is not a safer way to play a rising interest rate environment than buying MetLife. You don’t lose money by buying well-run insurance companies below book value. It just doesn’t happen.
JASON HARTMAN: Okay. So that’s interesting, because you know, insurance companies—their favorite investment is real estate. It’s income-producing real estate. And you know, I’m sitting right near an office building at this very moment that has a big for lease sign in front of it. And below, it says, owned by MetLife! [LAUGHTER]. So, you know. That’s interesting. They like apartment buildings, they like office buildings. They own all kinds of real estate properties. When you’re—when you own an insurance company stock like MetLife, how much of that is really a real estate investment, versus an investment in the insurance company’s business?
TEEKA TIWARI: Well, you make an excellent point. It’s—yes, they are huge owners of real estate. But if you look at their portfolios, they’re actually, their biggest investment is in bonds. And you might ask yourself, why would you want to invest—
JASON HARTMAN: [LAUGHTER]
TEEKA TIWARI: Hear me out.
JASON HARTMAN: I know, I know, I’m just giving you a hard time. Ho ahead.
TEEKA TIWARI: Why would you want to buy an insurance company that has an investment in bonds? Here’s the reason why. They are constantly getting new money in that has to be re-put back into the bond market. So, as bonds go higher, as yields go higher, they’re constantly reinvesting at higher and higher rates. The other thing is, if you look at their bond portfolio, compared to every other major insurance bond portfolio, they have the shortest duration, right? So, they have bonds that are coming due faster than anybody else. Now, why is that a positive? It’s a positive because they’re gonna be able to deploy that money at higher rates at a faster level than everybody else. Right? So, again, it’s kind of the—they’re in the best position. They have to invest in bonds. There’s nothing that they can do about that. It’s always gonna be a big part of any insurance company’s portfolio allocation. The difference is, is that they’re gonna have more money coming due sooner, than other companies. Right? So, other companies, they have a bond duration of 20, 25 years. MetLife’s average bond duration is 10 years and less, for much of their bond portfolio. So on a relative basis, it puts them in a much more compelling position than their counterparts.
JASON HARTMAN: Okay. Okay. Interesting. So, you explained the bond element to it. Anything else besides, you know, good old MetLife?
TEEKA TIWARI: Yeah. Well, what else am I looking at here that I think looks interesting? I’ll tell you another idea that I’m looking at, although it is a little beyond my—actually, no, it’s right near my buy up to price. A company called MGA, Magna International. And Magna International is one of the largest providers of outsourced car parts in the world. They’re an international company, and what this is, is a play on a resurgent consumer, on moving back to normalized auto sales, which as you know, during the financial crisis, you know, auto sales just got completely destroyed. So, if you are a believer that the US economy is going to limp back, that we are not falling into an economic abyss, never to return or to be heard from again, then you’ve gotta be a believer that the US consumer is gonna come back, consumer spending is gonna come back, and companies like MGA are going to benefit. Now, we started buying this stock around 85. It’s been as high as 101. It’s at 97; I have a buy up to price of 100, and I think this is something to get to 120 this year, yielding about one and a half percent.
JASON HARTMAN: Alright, very interesting. And what are your thoughts, just on the general prediction of the future, in terms of inflation or deflation? I mean, I know you believe in inflation, but, do you have any thoughts or specifics of predictions on that?
TEEKA TIWARI: Yeah, I do. I don’t think we’re gonna see out of control inflation. I do think inflation will pick up. Remember, the biggest component in inflation is labor costs, and we still have a pretty slack labor market. So, so long as the labor market is slack, you’re not gonna see out of control inflation take place. I think if you’re betting on deflation, you’re on the wrong side of the trade. And anybody that’s buying bonds here, whether you know it or not, you are making a de facto bet on deflation. And again, the demographics in the United States, and the psychological makeup of the average consumer in America, does not support a deflationary environment. So, we’re not Japan. So people that are drawing parallels to Japan—it’s a mistake. They have a completely different demographic makeup than we do; they have a completely different mindset.
JASON HARTMAN: Yeah, and they have a declining population! I mean, that is the thing that’s really killing Japan. I mean, you can look at their fiscal policy, you can look at their monetary policy, you can look at a bunch of things. But at the end of the day, this overriding demographic problem they have, is just going to make it very difficult for them to overcome. Because it’s a very insular economy. It’s a very insular society.
TEEKA TIWARI: That’s it. The only thing that can save Japan long term is if they open up their borders to immigration, which they have a long history of being very xenophobic. So, it’s probably not going to happen. So, people that are pointing to Japan and saying, well, that’s gonna happen in the States, I gotta tell you, you’re gonna be on the wrong side of the history, you’re gonna be on the wrong side of the market; you’re gonna leave a lot of money on the table.
JASON HARTMAN: Yeah, interesting. Well, drill down a little bit if you would, Teeka, on the labor cost issue. Because, we do have a very sluggish labor market. A lot of people are unemployed still, a lot of people are underemployed. It’s amazing, the quality and educational background of taxi drivers, Uber, and Lyft drivers, for the, you know, innovative ridesharing companies out there. I just cannot believe it, every time I get into an Uber car, talking to the guy—oh, yeah, I have an MBA, I used to work on Wall Street—you know? I’m an industrial engineer—these are the types of things I hear. These people are massively underemployed, and it’s terrible. Go to the coffee shop, and your barista has got a college degree if not an advanced degree a lot of times. It is really a terrible thing, frankly. So, and then, retail, which is sort of the de facto catchall for people in a sluggish labor market, has been shedding jobs! I mean, people are going online to do their shopping, and so, you’ve seen the retail sector just shedding jobs dramatically. Retail properties, I wouldn’t want to be investing there, because I think the concept of shopping is changing rather dramatically. Although, you know, it’ll still exist. I just—I don’t think it’s a growth industry, I’ll put it that way. But when you look at the labor cost, I mean, you look at Europe, and I think the thing that can drive inflation is just purely fiscal policy. Our government is massively in debt, and monetary policy, on the side of the printing and creation of fiat money, has just run rampant. Can’t we have inflation without the labor market improving? In other words, what has to give in the equation is the standard of living just declines! And that’s what we see in Europe. That’s what we see in Japan. I mean, people are living in micro, micro apartments in Japan. It’s a sad, sad story!
TEEKA TIWARI: In order for quantitative easing to create inflation, we would need the banks to start lending that money. But if you look at the end two numbers, that money has never left the banking system. It’s just been traded back and forth among the banks or redeposited back into the Fed, which is why it didn’t create inflation. So I don’t think inflation is going to come from monetary policy. I think if it was gonna come, it would have happened.
JASON HARTMAN: But aren’t—okay, so before you go on. Aren’t the banks just like every other investor, in the sense that when that wealth effect occurs—and we saw this in the last few real estate cycles, of course—people feel wealthy. They’ve got money. They look around, they look at their personal balance sheets, and they think gosh, I’ve either got money to spend, or invest, or credit facilities that I can use to invest, or spend. Investing is obviously the better alternative to spending. But that money’s eventually gonna trickle down and hit the streets, isn’t it?
TEEKA TIWARI: It hasn’t so far. And that’s been a big problem—
JASON HARTMAN: Some of it has though. I mean, you can’t say it hasn’t. I mean, right? That’s not a totally fair statement. I know you’re saying that figuratively, but some of it has, right? Since the crisis?
TEEKA TIWARI: I’m sure some of it has, but let’s look at the real estate market. The refi boom that happened. It only happened to people that had excellent credit scores. That never got down to even—not even subprime! You had to have credit scores about 720 to get access to capital when we were at 3.3%. So, had the banks loosened credit standards a little bit, I think you would have had more of a boom. So, if you look at the people that have benefited from really low interest rates, Jason, it’s been either 1) the wealthy, or 2) the fiscally conservative that had excellent credit scores. When I say it hasn’t trickled down, I mean it hasn’t trickled down to the man on the street, the average everyday person that has a maybe 650 to 680 credit score. That person hasn’t benefitted at all from quantitative easing, in my opinion.
JASON HARTMAN: Yeah. Well, that’s really kind of almost another discussion, but I think that’s one of the ways in which the banksters, especially from a central banking, big banking picture, are essentially taking advantage of the population. Because they create a bubble—if you look at this as kind of a conspiracy theory, I’ll admit, but you always see these bubbles. The Federal Reserve, 100 years ago when it was formed, one of its stated purposes was to eliminate the big swings in the economy by evening out the money supply, by controlling things, by having some central power that would smooth things out. That didn’t happen, right?
TEEKA TIWARI: No. I mean, all they’ve done is create bubbles. They created the tech bubble, when long term capital management should have been left to go out of business. Instead they saved them and lowered interest rates. They created the real estate bubble, when we had the crash in 2000, by lowering interest rates. And then, now they’ve created the biggest bubble of all, the bond bubble. This is gonna be—you know—
JASON HARTMAN: Don’t forget, the student loan bubble.
TEEKA TIWARI: Yeah, indeed. Indeed. And for people that can’t even get a return on that investment. But for me, the event that I’m tracking is even bigger than all of those events, and that is this bond bubble that’s being created. It’s the biggest bubble in human history. It’s $38 trillion large. So, you’ve got this incredible bond bubble, these yields that are totally perverted, and it’s just going to destroy millions and millions of investors that think they’re doing the right thing by buying these bonds, or buying these income investments, but again, they’re just getting fattened up for the kill again, by the Federal Reserve. You know, my job here is just to warn as many people as possible—hey! Be aware, this is coming. And it’s coming a lot sooner than you think.
JASON HARTMAN: Yeah. I would agree. I think that is happening. But, yeah. Interesting. It’s a scary thing, and this is what most people are doing; they’ve—the general middle part of the population always becomes the sucker, and they are the ones who get burned by this, so. It’s unfortunate. Hopefully the word will get out, and people will avoid fixed income. The other thing I wanted to say about bonds, is when you look at it from the bond issue or perspective, what happens in an inflationary environment, is that their debt becomes cheaper to repay. So, they—the bond issuers who you’re essentially lending the money to, in essence—they get a benefit. The wealth transfers to them, because their debt looks really cheap. But, if we have deflation, I mean, I think there’s a small segment of people out there who believe deflation is coming. Harry Dent being one of them that I’ve had on the show several times. He predicts gold at $250 an ounce, ultimately. He thinks it’s going to go below 750 fairly soon. We’ll see, I don’t know if he’s gonna be right or not. But whatever. So, if deflation occurs, and that debt becomes more expensive to pay, I think we’ve gotta be concerned about defaults! Bond issuers just defaulting, and walking away from their debt, right? Is that a concern?
TEEKA TIWARI: That’s certainly a concern, but again, I just have trouble getting my head around Dent’s arguments that we’re gonna see deflation.
JASON HARTMAN: I agree, I agree.
TEEKA TIWARI: If—let’s just, I’m gonna go verge off here a little bit. But if you look at the demographics, right? If you look at the next section of peak spenders, the Millenials and the Gen Xers, in 2017, you’ve got this huge demographic shift, of these people coming into the market, coming into their peak earning years. And yes, it’s not gonna be as big as when the Boomers hit their peak earning years in 82. Not even close. But it’s still incredibly positive for the US economy.
JASON HARTMAN: Well, but when—now, when you say that, when are you saying Gen X and Gen Y will hit their peak earning years and peak spending years too? Because that’s fairly far away—
TEEKA TIWARI: That will start in 2017. That wave will start, which will mimic the wave you saw in 82 when the Boomers started hitting their peak earning years. So, if you look at the demographics, it just doesn’t support a picture of deflation! If you also look at what’s going on with energy, that we’re gonna—we’re moving towards US energy independence. You look at onshoring, right? So, people are actually coming back to the United States to bring their manufacturing here to the United States. You gotta look at this whole big picture, and it’s not deflationary. It’s inflationary. So—
JASON HARTMAN: How does the onshoring make it inflationary? Because it’s more expensive to manufacture here.
TEEKA TIWARI: It’s gonna create demand for labor, and that’s inflationary. You’re gonna have more demand for labor. And getting back to your original question about, what’s gonna turn the job market around? I think it comes down to CAPEX, Jason. What you’re seeing here is most businesses in the United States—I’m talking about S&P 500—they’ve been definitely afraid to reinvest in their business, so what they’ve been doing is investing in their stock. They’ve been doing these huge buybacks, they’ve been raising their dividends, and CAPEX spending has been really muted! I mean, really, really muted. But we’re starting to see an uptick in CAPEX. You can only postpone investing in your business for so long before, you know, competitors start eating your lunch. So I think, if you’re looking for an area to follow, for a potential leading indicator, look at CAPEX on the S&P 500. It is starting to tick up. And I think that is going to help spark an uptake in new jobs that will help create some wage inflation, which is a good thing.
JASON HARTMAN: Yeah. And then, and that really goes to the other point that I made earlier, that there’s all this money sitting on the sidelines, and eventually it trickles down. Now you’re saying it hasn’t really happened much with the banks, and it won’t really happen that much with the banks, but certainly that’s the pressure. I mean, money always looks for yield, and you gotta invest it. You gotta use it to get yield, because you certainly don’t get yield by saving it.
TEEKA TIWARI: Right. And I think that’s gonna be driven more by corporate America than by the banks. I think as CAPEX budgets get increased, I think you’re gonna see some of the slack start to come out of the labor markets.
JASON HARTMAN: Yeah. And the thing that, interestingly though, the thing you didn’t mention when you talked about inflation coming, is you didn’t mention fiscal and monetary policy! I mean, those are—those are giants! You kind of glossed over those.
TEEKA TIWARI: Well, they are issues. But, however, let’s look at the facts. Government deficits were 10% of GDP in 2009. They’re now down to 2% of GDP. Our debt is out of control, and the only way it can be paid back is through inflating it away. In my mind, there’s no question in that. But if we look at the pace of government spending, it’s actually slowing down. If you look at the most recent data on receipts, on income tax receipts, they’re up. They were up 15% in March. That’s the last data that I was looking at. So, again, government spending is declining. It’s declining really dramatically. So, governments are always going to spend more money than they take in. Our debt, yes, is wildly out of control. But I think inflation will take care of it. I mean, you raised the point of big debtors basically benefitting from inflation. There’s no one that’s gonna benefit more than the US government. And again, I want to make the distinction—the US government’s balance sheet is highly leveraged, but if you look at the corporate balance sheet and the individual balance sheet, we’re seeing some of the lowest leverage ratios that we’ve seen in decades. The consumer’s in much better shape than they were 10 years ago, and so are corporations.
JASON HARTMAN: Well, good stuff. Give up that website one more time, and wrap up with any closing thought you might have.
TEEKA TIWARI: Sure. It’s www.MegaTrendsInvesting2.com.
JASON HARTMAN: Teeka, any closing thoughts?
TEEKA TIWARI: Again, just please heed this warning. Remove yourself from the bond market. If you own any preferred stocks, find out if they’re perpetual preferreds. Perpetual preferreds have no maturity date; they will just track and crush your money if interest rates spike up the way that I think they will. So, please go to my site, I have a whole presentation on this idea, believe me; it could absolutely save your retirement. So please, check it out. And Jason, thanks for having me on the show. It was just a pleasure being here.
JASON HARTMAN: Pleasure is all mine, and watch out, because inflation is most likely going to come, and that’s bad news for China, because they’re gonna get paid back in cheaper dollars. Pretty good deal for the US.
TEEKA TIWARI: Indeed.
JASON HARTMAN: So, we didn’t talk about the geopolitical thing. Maybe we can talk about that on a future episode. But, Teeka Tiwari, thank you so much for joining us today.
TEEKA TIWARI: Thank you, Jason.
ANNOUNCER: This show is produced by the Hartman Media Company. All rights reserved. For distribution or publication rights and media interviews, please visit www.HartmanMedia.com, or email [email protected] Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, or business professional for any individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own, and the host is acting on behalf of Platinum Properties Investor Network, Inc. exclusively.
Transcribed by David
The Jason Hartman Team