Today’s guest Dr. Paul Drouin is the founder of the International Quantum University of Integrative Medicine as well as the author of the book Creative Integrative Medicine – A Medical Doctor’s Journey toward a New Vision for Health Care. Paul comes on to the show to share his thoughts and theories on natural medicine, genetics, the old-fashioned model of conventional medicine, and more.

Key Takeaways:
1:25 – What does Paul mean by integrative medicine.
4:58 – We have to look at the human body from a deeper angle, there’s more to us than just the physical.
7:50 – How you think and your beliefs can affect your genes.
11:15 – If the mind believes you age faster, then chances are you probably will.
14:50 – We can’ solve a health problem without first understanding the connection between mind and body.
20:30 – What can people do to increase their wellness and longevity?
21:30 – Paul shares his thoughts on what will happen in this field in the next 5 years.

 

Tweetables:
β€œHow can we treat most of the clinic disease based on the connection if you don’t have a model to understand that?”

β€œThe cost of medicine will decrease when we will have a deeper understanding of how we’re human beings.”

β€œWe have to reflect on the connection of mind/body. The current model of medicine doesn’t have the capacity to understand this.”

Mentioned In This Episode:
http://quantumworld.tv/
Anatomy of an Illness by Norman Cousins
QuantumUniversity.com

Transcript

Jason Hartman:
It’s my pleasure to welcome Dr. Paul Drouin to the show. He is founder the International Quantum University for Integrative Medicine. He is professor of integrative medicine and author of Creative Integrative Medicine – A Medical Doctor’s Journey toward a New Vision for Health Care. Paul, welcome, how are you?

Paul Drouin:
Very well, thank you and thank you for having me on your show. I really appreciate it.

Jason:
Well, the pleasure is ours and you’re coming to us from beautiful Hawaii, is that correct?

Paul:
Oh yes, I’m very pleased. Originally I’m born from Canada, but I’m in the United States now since 2000 and now I am in the beautiful of Hawaii for the last 7-8, yes. Beautiful.

Jason:
Good stuff. Well, tell us what do you mean when you say integrative medicine? What does that mean?

Paul:
You know, there is a lot of evolution in the domain what we call complimentary medicine, alternative medicine. Originally, you know, when you’re speaking of the whole model of heating or natural medicine, it was, you had on one side, you know, this type of medicine and the other side what we call more conventional medicine. Now, the others to integrate all of this together, you know, I think there’s a lot of benefit to look at health have the all resource and understanding of everything that you can and some model of healing are really an important contribution.

The thing is that most of the conventional medicine will object these medicines, because they will say they’re not authentic, they can not be part of model theory design and pharmaceutical surgery and this is was the notion of this university I found, which is called Quantum University is to redesign a model curriculum that will allow broader spectrum of model of healing and to do so we have John Davis’s curriculum on the premise of quantum physics.

Jason:
Okay, so, tell us about the premise of quantum physics. You say that, but I’m not sure all the listeners know what you mean by that.

Paul:
I want to make it very simple, you know, because have to understand that we needs of doctors today and what is the foundation of their science, it is a model of course anatomy, biology, chemistry, but that has not been update onto, you know, quantum physics. When these scientist at beginning of the century stopped to look at neither and went beyond the atomic level and this is what we call sub-anatomy. When we stop to look at the smaller and smaller particles and then we realize, you know, the way we look at things are completely different, you know, they realized that everything is defined more in turn of probabilities and not only that, the observer as the affect on the object and then from there they realized we are in a kind of entanglement with the whole universe.

Jason:
Right, when you talk about the observer taking on the affect on what’s being observed, you’re probably referring to the famous doubles slit experience, right?

Paul:
Oh, absolutely. This is just the beginning of the story, but all the discovery about (#4:11?). The fact that we can affect a thing at distance, leap discontinuity, and all this, has completely a huge consequence on the model of medicine. By example, if you look at biology, you know, and determining that is defined the model of genetics. Now we come with completely different ideas that we to look at human being and I think the subject of longevity and health and prevention is very important to you, but you start to see the human in other terms, from another deeper angle, now you start to understand that there’s more than just physicality, there’s something beyond.

So, there’s a model of sudden energy that emerge from that and this is what we have describe in our university, Quantum University, you know it started of the model of anatomy. We have been able to include other model of feeding, because they base on principle like (#5:19?) and vital forces via homeopathy and natural medicines. All these principles can be now understood and include in this new reality that the time quantum physics.

Jason:
So, what does this mean to the area of longevity sciences and anti-aging sciences?

Paul:
It’s huge. When you think about anti-aging, the weaker conventional medicines look at it, first of all, you know, you can not, the outcome can not just be botox and plastic surgery and rip this organ when they’re not functioning anymore. You have to go deeper and work at the completely another level. First of all, how you present aging, how you would be able to, you know, detect already subtle energy change in the field that generate diseases, all this, you know, has a major importance in again.

So, let me give you a very simple example, everybody knows that these master tai chi or these people participating yoga for years, they can slow down the aging. Why? Because they work with what we call prana sonic energy that has zero effect on the age of the cell and this is what it’s about when we stop to understand anti-aging with the deeper understanding of life, which is quantum physics. I hope I explained it well here.

So, it’s more than just trying to fix things with the pharmaceutic or ripping organ, you can have the effect on the vital force of the prana or chi, you can regenerate organs, you can have a system of unity that’s not a box in which you did time in a gym, no, in the model of biology, defined now with quantum physics and this describe Dr. Lipton is one of the famous, you know, scientists who spoke about biology things, how you are thinking, how your belief can affect your genes, so you have to include all these factors so that, you know, at the end of the day, you know, enjoy your life and have a better integration of your philology, you can have access to all this knowledge. This is very important, this is completely different. Let’s take an example here about..

Jason:
I was looking at, great, and I love this side of it, the theory and the philosophy, but any specific examples would be much appreciated, so go ahead on the example.

Paul:
You know, a few years ago, maybe it was a year ago, I’m very respectful of the choice of people, but we have in this case Angelina Jolie discovered that her gene predictor for cancer and here and on the logic of conventional medicine the outcome was, you know, surgery. It is very (#8:45?), but very logic inside the model of medicine that we have. In other words, if you have a model of medicine that agrees that your genes can not be changed and can not be affected by your belief system can not be affected by any other moderation healing, here beyond the outcome of prevention is very (#9:09?). You can see all the difference here, you know, people, because now we know that the cap for aging is increasing, but people are also concerned about the quality of their health, you know, it’s not just being living at 80 years old with 6-7-8 type of pills, but it’s living at 80-90 years old with all your mind and all your plenty and all your, you know, functionality.

Jason:
Or living to 120 or 150 years with all of those things.

Paul:
Yeah, but you can access that if you have an understanding of philology anatomy that is encompasses the model of physicality. You have to be able to understand subtle energy and how to work the mechanic of healing and how you can restore that, this skeptical (#10:05?) that’s been through years. This is what the law, the modern of understanding that we’re speaking about.

So, because first of all, the doctor in this model of healing, we look individual in term of (#10:21?), so instead of just look at parameters that knows (#10:29?). You look at the individual in term of bio terrain, emotional, physical, and spiritual and then from that, apply the directives that are necessary. If we speak in term of bio terrain, then we know that in natural practices people need to cleanse the ducts, increase immunity, regenerate organs, and so on. If we determine in term of emotionality and mental, then people know that they have to work on their producing stand.

No matter what, you know, you will lose not anti-aging, but in your mind if you still believe that you age faster, there’s still nothing you can do about it. It’s an approach where you take a different field of information in term of prevention and in term of optimal functionality and potentiality. So, the doctor, the creative doctor, this is the way I call it and we have an online TV show this weekend on Quantum World TV, this is what we’d speak about. Where you look at the end of the journey not in term of certainty and (#11:45?), but in term of full potentiality. What can be done here that this individual is at it’s full potential. So, it’s another way to look at the human being and this is on that basis, that doctors during medicine on natural that’s in through the study should learn to be educated and this is what we provided from the university.

Jason:
Many people are becoming aware over the past couple of decades of the idea of psychosomatic medicine, how the mind influences the body and vice verse, of course. I think we always understood the vice verse, but not the mind influencing the body, you know, what mind harbors the body manifests, that idea. What I’m curious about, doctor, is how does this become part of our genetic code into where it’s pass down to offspring. I mean, does that really going to our DNA? Our thinking? I mean, that’s amazing.

Paul:
You’re asking a critical question and I’m answering you in a way that we are getting there, but first we have to reflect absolutely on this connection mind and body and understand that the model of medicine that’s designed actually doesn’t have the capacity to understanding that connection, because it’s a materialistic conventional model that can not grasp itself. We have this thing about like a unity, a paradox for years. It is like one side the mind, one side the body. You can’t integrate that reality on the model of education, the outdated model of education we have now in universities and even some natural medicine school. This is very important.

To first of all, before we try to ask what does it take to go there, first we need a deeper understanding where this tool can be integrated together and this is what, you know, this is what we’re teaching in this class of what we call quantum doctor and how consciousness interfaces with matter, that’s very important. From there, they will have a model how we can join, how you can understand a connection mind and body, which is absolutely not only in longevity and anti-aging, but also in the three bed of chronic disease. How can we treat most of the clinic disease based on the connection and mind and body if you don’t have a model to understand that?

This is critical and this is why most of the model is of health care spent in chronic disease where in the end of the day we just have a sentimental way to address, but we never, we can not really solve the problem without understanding that connection and yes, this is very important. The real question is absolutely crucial. First of all you have to law out, you know, a model that can grasp this and from there, of course, come with different type of education where actually..

Jason:
I mean, do we have any science around that happening or is it just a theory now? I’m not saying it’s true or untrue, I’m just saying, what is the mechanism by which, for example, if one’s parents are optimistic or if one’s pessimistic, but maybe they’re separated from their parents at birth, so they don’t have any nurture-type of influence, they only have a nature influence. You know, I commonly said that politics and religion are hereditary, but that’s really because of the nurture side of things.

Many of us think the way our parents think, you know, in those fields because they had so much time to influence us, but say for example the child is separated from their parent at birth, does that parent’s thinking, you know their optimism or pessimism, their ability to handle stress, their ability to do whatever, you know, this mental stuff. Is that past down through the genetic code and is our thinking, does it change our genetic code? Can we literally exert that much force?

You know, I know we can exert force and I certainty believe we can exert force on the way we feel by our attitude, you know, if we get up in the morning saying oh, my body aches and pains and I’m sick, you know, we make ourselves sick, that is widely known nowadays although some people still don’t practices, back even the days of Norman Cousins and his book Anatomy of an Illness and we know that good humor is good for us physically, literally physically good for us, but another step beyond that would be influencing our actual genes. I mean, that’s amazing. Do we know that’s true or is that only a theory.

Paul:
No, no is a theory. The theory of medicine that they answer more this question, crucial question is what we call neuroscience degree. How to recreate new brain quickly, because you know, you’re born, of course, from a genetic and you born with some kind of wiring, right, and thinking you have and anything you have are making your chemistry and your neuro psychology and this is where we, to again, this frame of what you just said, we make our reality, this and the outcome from quantum physics, because as (#17:34?) understood that there was a relationship between observer object and so on.

We realize that we are in some ways some type of creator, let’s say another God and so on, but we affect of the outcome of our reality and here you have this individual working in the office and ave this disease and then you look at the genetics and the father and the mother, you know, they have this kind of also same weakness and here you have to change, you know, not only to change but before the change to have to change the way the individual intertwines with reality and this is what we call the neuroscience, the brain circuits and now we know that the brain of force can be changed. In the older model of conventional medicine it’s like, you know, you’re born with this, capital neurons and then now you combat to shrink.

Now we realize we can recreate new brain circuits or currents and there is sick energies, there is an approach a technique at best to allow you to do that, you know, this very important. This is where we are now. One of our professors of our conferences Dr. Joe Dispenza, he’s the one who wrote about, you know, breaking your habits and the plastic effect.

Jason:
What was that last one after you said breaking your habits and what? The what effect?

Paul:
Three books. One is evolve your brain, the other one, I don’t have exactly the titles, but it’s..

Jason:
Oh, it’s probably on neuroplasticity and did you know the movie name you’re referring to?

Paul:
Exactly, neuroplasticity. How to break your habits and the next book he wrote is the placebo effect. This is about, see what we’re speaking about, how can we affect your genes to reality, but we need approach that can go there. So, now more than just a theory, we’re in the application of it.

Jason:
I’d like to say to my listeners, you know, it’s an amazing time to be alive, but we are running out of time for the show. So, I just want you to ask you maybe two question just quickies here, but before I do that, give out your website if you would, Paul.

Paul:
Sure, so the university, QuantumUniversity.com or .org. My good is about creative integrative medicine, but we create, what’s that called, creative doctor, so you can find the book there.

Jason:
So, Paul, of course the book is on Amazon, available on Amazon too, but I want to ask you two brief questions before you go and number one is what can people do? What specific action can they take from this interview with you in their lives to increase their wellness and longevity, just a quick tip if you would.

Paul:
I think, you know, it’s a great top one with what is a quick one, the way to change the way you look at the world and try to, there’s so many techniques out there, there could be meditation, it could be everyone will find its way, but have what we call the right thinking and because most of the time you know, any process of disease, even aging, is affected by the way you think and to me we have the science to recommend that.

Jason:
Fantastic, so right thinking and positive thing and then the next question and of course there’s so much going on and these are very complex issues, but the next question is what is your thought, you know, what would be sort of the next big breakthrough in the world integrative medicine, quantum medicine, anti-aging, longevity sciences, what can we look forward to here in the next five years or so? What are your thoughts on that?

Paul:
You know, the next five years. I think we already laid out what I call a new curriculum for medicine and natural medicine is very important and already we have student graduates that are in the field and are the on board of this thinking and all different categories of society from doctors, nurses, people in the wellness industry, and also speaker and writer and then (#22:11?) all over the world and embrace this new kind of understanding of re-adaptive defined by quantum physics, but also reflect in medicine and this is what you can expect in five years. It would be one of the spectrum of one of these new ideas, because health care can be affordable just because we organized the social aspects of it. It’s not because you changed the one who paid the bills that the the cost of medicine will decreased. The cost of medicine was decreased when we will have a deeper understanding how we’re human beings and this is what is offered in quantum university with this new co-economic of medicine.

Jason:
Good, good stuff. Well, there’s a lot to look forward to and Dr. Paul Drouin, thank you so much for joining us today.

Paul:
Thank you for having me on your show. Thank you very much.

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